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Author Topic: Ferrumsect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]  (Read 130 times)

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Ferrumsect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« on: November 07, 2013, 03:43:00 am »
Ferrumsect [WIP]
Steel/Bug
Hardened Steel Pokemon
Dex Entry: Even though FERRUMSECTs are made of steel, but they can't seem to  resist fire and extreme heats. They apparantly made their cocoons out of molten magma before they adapted to having steel shells in their cocoon stage long ago.
Abilities: Swarm/Sturdy/DW Heatproof
Stats:
HP 50
Atk 75
Def 120
SpAtk 75
SpDef 70
Speed 80
BST 470
Moves:
(soon to come)

Alphabug (first mon in line ; evolves into Ferroshell at Level 15)
Bug Type
Bug Pokemon
Dex Entry: This Pokemon has a habit of eating all it can before going into its next stage of life: its cocoon stage. It uses all the minerals it consumes into its metamorphasis.
Abilities: Swarm/DW Gluttony
Stats
HP 35
Atk 40
Def 45
SpAtk 45
SpDef 40
Speed 40
BST 245
Moves:
(soon to come)

Ferroshell
Steel Type
Iron Cocoon Pokemon
Dex Entry: It is still a bug, just different due to covering itself in special liquid metal once it gets enough minerals in its first stage of life. I can barely move, but is very hardy when it comes to survival. It still isnt done growing, so it is still very hungry.
Abilities: Heatproof/DW Gluttony
Stats
HP 45
Atk 15
Def 150
SpAtk 15
SpDef 40
Speed 5
BST 270
Moves:
(soon to come)
Evolves at Level 30

So if youre confused it goes:
Alphsect --Lv15--> Ferroshell --30--> Ferrosect

Its still a WIP so rate and comment
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 03:14:51 pm by cofagragus »
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Re: Ferrosect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2013, 04:20:14 pm »
Name is kinda just Ferrothorn + Genesect and it's a bit fanboyish with Flash Fire imo, can't say more yet cuz no movepool and such
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Re: Ferrosect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2013, 05:16:55 pm »
Can't say much since no movepool but by it's stats distribution and DW ability it looks like a competitive made pokemon also flash fire is basically the opposite of it's Dex description: Even though FERROSECTs are made of steel, but they can't seem to  resist fire and extreme heats, giving him a ability that grants immunity to it's only weakness and going completely againist the dex entry :/.

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Re: Ferrosect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2013, 12:27:52 am »
Okay okay Ill change Flash Fire to something more like Heatproof, and damn no it is not "fanboyish"; I thought that Ferro meant the element Iron and that sect is the suffix for trying to make something a bug :| you dont have to use words like that unless its really horrible, I took a while on this...

@Snaq its not fanboyish at all since it is just a bug that starts out as a regular bug, cocoons with a metal cocoon and comes out as a bug but infused with the compounds of the metal. If it was "fanboyish", it would get abilities like Iron Barbs or Download, or even Anticipation. Plus I imagined the design way different than both Thorny and Genesect, so you cant assume its "fanboyish" just because I made a name that doesnt connect right to you. If I used Ferrogen and used something similar to their dex entries/description, then that will be a bit too fanboyish, for me as well.
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Re: Ferrosect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2013, 03:01:54 am »
Well, the thing had what was already one of the best typings and then had an ability added onto it that makes it have no weaknesses. I believe that that is what Snaquaza is referring to when he says it is fanboyish. It doesn't matter that there's an excuse for it to have that ability, it still comes across as, well, an excuse for it to have a fanboyish ability. Like if I made a Dark/Poison mon and gave it Levitate and responded to complaints that it seemed artificial with "Ah, but it floats. Integral part of the design, that. STOP MESSING WITH MY ARTISTIC VISION!"
...*Ahem*  And Bug/Steel w/ Flash Fire is better than Floatydarksmog, so yeah.

Plus Bug/Steel is so overused. We've had 6 of them in 5 generations. We're ahead of the quota.

Edit: The point I was trying to make is this; Bug/Steel with a Fire immunity looks really artificial. It doesn't look like an actual Pokemon, it looks like someone has gone, "I should make a Bug/Steel with a Fire immunity. That has NO WEAK."
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 03:05:17 am by Champion Steve »

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Re: Ferrosect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2013, 03:19:52 am »
Yes I got that, but please refer to the Original Post as it has gottem some changes to both stats and the abilities. Besides its a W.I.P. so I need this type of response for my mon ;)
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Re: Ferrosect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2013, 08:23:10 am »
you're a bit of there cofag,
Ferrum means Iron, or sword for that matter.
Ferro means I bring/ I carry/ I withstand, or for the Iron/ for the sword/ Through the iron/ through the sword.
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Re: Ferrosect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2013, 03:14:23 pm »
Well now thats arranged; its new name is Ferrumsect :)
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Re: Ferrumsect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2013, 08:28:16 pm »
Umm, ferrum still obviously has the same root as ferro plus it still runs into the problem of sounding like a cross between Genesect and Ferrothorn (plus it's a Bug/Steel whose name is basically "Steel Bug".)

Also, it goes Bug, Steel, Bug/Steel?

Edit: What kind of insect is it meant to be, anyway? Cocoon stage makes me think moth/butterfly but, well, butterflies can fly. If we know what kind of bug it is then it's easier to come up with a less generic sounding name. Speaking of which, how about Ferrapace (ferrous + carapace) for stage two?
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 08:55:48 pm by Champion Steve »

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Re: Ferrumsect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2013, 12:18:22 am »
Hmmm I was thinking the first one was just a beetle and it covers itself in metal silk IT ONLY PRODUCES WHEN READY TO COVER ITSELF; as soon as having enough nutrients in its body; to clear up why it isnt a catapillar making a cocoon. It is then just a cocoon until it comes out of the "cocoon", then it will be more of a bee-shaped-body bug but not specifically a bee.
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Re: Ferrumsect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2013, 12:48:00 pm »
Great abilities, excellent name (You changed from Dative to Accusative case in Latin, which makes much more sense). However, why does the second string evo have a whopping 150 attack, which gets lowered? Strange, and kind of reminds me of the Salamence evo line. In that case, you might want to raise it's offensive stats a bit, fifteen kinda sucks, especially if you're Taunt bait. Raise that SpD too, that's just not even nice to it. Love the final evo, you made it have the perfect BST. Just be mindful of the second line, that's the thing that sets up most mons in the game as you know it.
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Re: Ferrumsect, Alphasect and Ferroshell [WIP]
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2013, 02:32:16 pm »
Rejected, Typing Issue
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