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Naminé

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Swapping Stone
« on: November 05, 2013, 04:51:44 pm »
Name Swapping Stone
Effect: The holder isn't hurt by recoil (including struggle) but instead lowers the users attack by 2 stages when using recoil moves.
Buying Price: Not buyable but found in victory road.
Selling Price: 10,000
Fling power: 90

Why using it? It is usefull because some recoil moves are really strong but you don't want that damage gone! Especially moves like: Brave Bird, Flare Blitz and Double Edge are better and you can just switch to get the attack drop gone.
Is it OP? No, the attack drop can sometimes be fatal and the attack isn't boosted.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2013, 05:09:47 pm by Naminé »

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Re: Swapping Stone
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 12:26:25 am »
hahaha or you can let Defiant mons available to use it normally and its atk going to normal after lowered since not many Defiant mons can abuse this anyways, and you can make Contrary users not reverse the stat lowered by this item.
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Re: Swapping Stone
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2013, 07:27:30 am »
We can't ban items on certain mons
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Re: Swapping Stone
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 04:03:52 pm »
It's a interesting item idea, letting you preserve a mon for longer at the cost of lowering it's power after the use, High Jump Kick users like mienshao are going to love you forever for making this item Naminé, but aside from what you already said regarding contrary and defiant being possibly OP with the item there's nothing wrong from what i can see.

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Re: Swapping Stone
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 04:52:27 pm »
Ok i used cofagrigus's idea of making it not boost contrary (tbh i don't know if any contrary mons learn recoil moves) but since it is hard to code to exclude it i don't think contrary will be a too big problem and cofagrigus is also right that it still lowers the attack by defiant mons so only a 1 boost ot even none.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2013, 04:54:55 pm by Naminé »

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Re: Swapping Stone
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2013, 05:00:50 pm »
Negative for complicated, creates some OP scenario's and I think we can spend our items better, as well as other reasons I stated to you in PM @namine
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Re: Swapping Stone
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2013, 05:05:53 pm »
It isn't THAT complitcated only 2 things:
No recoil.
Lowers the users attack by 2 stages when using a recoil move.

As stated in the description it was to prevent negatives from it being op, Only mon learning any recoil moves with contrary is spinda with all stats 60 still to frail and stuff, and barviary even if it has no drawback brave bird, 80 speed is just too slow to sweep, it also got no attack boost or speed boost from a band/scarf so it won't even hit too hard.

About using the slots better, idk but tbh i haven't really seen any super items for the last months, so i thought i proposed an interesting one that would actually be used and not just left behind like a odd bone.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2013, 05:09:02 pm by Naminé »

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Re: Swapping Stone
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 05:10:40 pm »
okay I'll abstain now, but I still think the slots can be spend better (maybe bit strange but meh)
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Re: Swapping Stone
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2013, 12:24:43 am »
Positive I think its an interesting strategy in Contrarymons where all  stat changes are reversed.
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Re: Swapping Stone
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2013, 12:33:10 am »
Positive I think I am going to use Braviary all the time now :)
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Re: Swapping Stone
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2013, 01:15:50 am »
Dammm I have been gone for quite a while with vacation and stuff and this junk is awesome

Positive and should be for keepsees as I dont see anything specifically OP with it except for the fact that Sableye can switch it onto random Pokemon and cause their Atk to go down, making Sableye much more bulky physically
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