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The Making of Tervari => Pokemon and Pokedex => Propositions => Topic started by: Snaquaza on September 01, 2013, 04:17:41 pm
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Then its evo:
Scythclopshu
Steel/Ghost
Abilities: Shadow Tag/ Iron Fist/ DW Technician
HP75
Atk125
Def 80
SpAtk 80
SpDef 80
Spe 92
Also found Scythclops info!
Scythethu
Steel/Ghost
Ability: Shadow Tag/Telepathy/DW Technician
HP40
Atk65
Def50
SpAtk35
SpDef50
Spe50
Moves:
-ViceGrip
-Harden
4 Shadow Ray
8 Metal Claw
12 Sharpen
16 Confuse Ray
23 Fury Cutter
27 Hone Claws
30 Dual Chop
34 X-Scissor
37 Shadow Claw
40 Curse
45 Bullet Punch
49 Meteor Mash
53 Shadow Sneak
58 Guillitine
63 Hammer Arm
Egg Moves:
Iron Defense
Shadow Punch
Shadow Sneak
Night Shade
Psycho Cutter
Drain Punch
Focus Punch
Dizzy Punch
Destiny Bond
Disable
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This mon seems too much like Dusclops, Armogeist, and Golurk. Armo is already Ghost/Steel and with Honedge coming out in the real games this typing seems too gimmicky and overused. Not to mention the set isn't very creative
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Honestly, I see nothing wrong with this at all. Sure, it has "clops" in the name, but many Pokemon ave names very similar. I'm willing to accept this, looks alright!
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Well, at a glance, it is a pretty neat mon. Shadow Tag AND Iron Fist AND Technician?! Sign me up! But before I say that, there are a few things that might need to change. One, Shadow Tag should be the DW Ability on Scytheclopshu, because if it isn't, then it is just unfair, so it would be fair, kind of like Chandelure. Second of all, there needs to be a TM list and a Tutor list, that helps out a lot with deciding competitive sets. Shouldn't this guy get Trick? I mean, it has the perfect viability to run Choice items, so why shouldn't we give it something perfect for that? Otherwise, he seems okay. But, there are no diverse moves at all. You only seem to have one special move, and it's a set damage move. So you need to make it diverse and not some crazy good special attacker, because 80 special attack can be useful. But I mean with Honedge coming out this seems kind of similar to him. I'm basically quoting Zyphirex, so just read what he has to say.
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uh, this isn't to become competitive EhhhN
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My reason for Negative was because obv. this mon is made to be competitive. Shadow Tag? That ability is kinda op. Technician with alll: Bullet punch, Shadow Sneak AND dual chop. Together with 123 attack :L and good speed of it's own. The other moves are also lot's of technician bppsted ones: Metal Claw, Psycho Spin and shadow punch even fury cutter (even still being useless). This mon is just a fanboy made mon the have a perfect dual typed with perfect abilities and amazing (ok it is short) movepool to supports it abilities the only thing missing was Sheer Force with 10 sheer force boosted moves.
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And I see no problem with that. Shadow Tag IS a very good abiity, but that would mean that you're missing out on Technician. What can you switch in on with Shadow Tag? Choice locked Fighting types are the only mons I can really think of. Ghost/Steel is poor STAB for a trapping mon. A Shadow Tag mon is more suited for revenge killing, but I'd still say that Dugtrio is the better trapper due to more speed/better STAB. As for Technican, it does have some good moves for it (which I stress is NOT a bad thing), but 125 Atk is worse than 130 Atk, which is what Scizor has. Not to mention the fact that this mon has lacking bulk and poor speed in this meta. Overall, I see absolutely NO reason to not approve of this mon.
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Then its evo:
Scythclopshu
Steel/Ghost
Abilities: Shadow Tag(Ever seen Gothitelle, this has way better typing AND moves) / Iron Fist/ DW Technician(Is this scizor and for Eagle4, this has better typing than Scizor, as well as WAY better speed)
HP75
Atk125
Def 80
SpAtk 80
SpDef 80
Spe 92
Also found Scythclops info!
Scythethu
Steel/Ghost(Strange OP typing of which we have already one, it doesn't fit either)
Ability: Shadow Tag/Telepathy/DW Technician
HP40
Atk65
Def50
SpAtk35
SpDef50
Spe50
Moves:
-ViceGrip
-Harden
4 Shadow Ray
8 Metal Claw
12 Sharpen
16 Confuse Ray
23 Fury Cutter
27 Hone Claws
30 Dual Chop (Almost nothing gets this, why you gave it levelup even, just to be better with Technician? OOH yea, you told me that was the reason)
34 X-Scissor
37 Shadow Claw
40 Curse
45 Bullet Punch (too obviously paired to be good with Technician and it is fan boyish)
49 Meteor Mash (almost nothing even gets this and this isn't even from space...)
53 Shadow Sneak (Seriously, Bullet Punch and Shadow Sneak with Technician...)
58 Guillitine
63 Hammer Arm (oh you can hit steels too .0.)
Egg Moves:
Iron Defense
Shadow Punch
Shadow Sneak
Night Shade
Psycho Cutter (what does even get this... doesn't fit AT ALL)
Drain Punch (yay healing on steels!)
Focus Punch (more things to hit steels!)
Dizzy Punch
Destiny Bond (ever wondered why that speed? it can take down one mon after it trapped or revenged!)
Disable
(Overal this seems like an extremely Fanboyish mon, and Eagle4, 125 isn't 130 exactly, but it can revenge while something is trapped so it is secure or just go for a sweep with its higher speed, it stats are also not bad defensively and the typing is the best defensive in the game, overal this mon seems just made to have everything it needs even if it doesn't fit at all and will give a bad image of the game with its extreme fan boyishness)
Remember, it doesn't have Egg moves even yet, which will be another source of way more moves and will surely make it both more op and fanboyish
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75/80/80 is NOT bad defensively. 80/80/80 is already to be called bulky.
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Especially with Steel Ghost typing which resists or is immune to over half of the attacks, also if it traps you you can do nothing to stop revenging you as it has priority and shadow tag + all the other OP/fanboyish stuff I said
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Yah and its disturbing BST...
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Well, competitive or not, my vote stands, and all of what is being said is just further proving the final outcome.
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Rejected 8 vs 2